and when you're done watching this explain to me when Ron Paul of Dr. No fame became the champion of the Republican party? He has used the party to get elected, he has voted against them, and though he is certainly a conservative he has attacked the party repeatedly. Now sudden;y he is worried about how the party will do in the elections. Is this an example of Ron Paul pandering to the base? Or just more of his messianic ego run amok? This has to be the most hypocritical moment of the entire debate. Ron Paul, defender of the party.
Well as fair and balanced goes that was an atrocious display of hypocrisy. What Brit Hume and Chris Wallace did to Ron Paul was at best a telling reminder that journalists pack a lot of power in the political arena, and at worst was a violation of the public trust. How they personally feel about Ron Paul isn’t pertinent, and their intolerance of his pposition and the attitude they displayed toward him was unprofessional and demeaning of the profession.
That being said, what you are reading elsewhere simply isn’t true. First, Ron Paul was asked 2 questions during the first half hour of the debate, and was given ample opportunity to display his stance on the issues that were presented in the debate. The only question I didn’t get to here his response to that was important was illegal immigration. Further, the moderators allowed him to enter into a debate within the debate with Mike Huckabee, and while I personally thought Ron got the better of it, the pundits bought into the apple pie and honor presentation of Mike Huckabee.
Now lets get on to the fun stuff. Biff Romney looked like a total buffoon. After each of his answers, many that received no response from the audience, he nodded and made faces denoting how wonderful he thought his answers were. His answers to all the major issues left people with the words “how will you do that” on there lips, and all things considered he was the worst of the crowd. I didn’t have any feelings for or against Biff going in, but his performance ranked down around the bottom with Dr. Paul in my eyes.
I know Rudy is getting slapped around some, but I was fairly impressed with him. His response to why he made NYC an open city for illegals made a ton of sense. You can only do so much at the municipal level without the aid of a malfeasant federal government, and I think he handled the situation there as well as could be expected. His foreign policy positions are as hawkish as everyone elses, and all things considered he is likely the only person in the debates who has a record of success leading anything more important than a small southern state.
I would die before I voted for Huckabee. I thought he did well last night though, and took Ron Paul on head to head, which no one else seems willing to do. He is erudite, charming, and corn pone witty, and is likely to do well down south where what beer you drink can sway voters.
Duncan Hunter might very well be a psychopath. His response to the hypothetical about Iran said nothing about diplomacy, but instead revolved around precision guided munitions. I think they all showed their hypocrisy on the nuclear issue. I’m somewhat doubtful that the Iranians could exhibit less control than the nation that lost 6 nukes for several hours the other day over America’s heartland.
John McCain. What a man. He definitely stands out from the crowd, and if decency and charachter were the only issue he’d be my choice hands down. That’s not the case though, and his stances are going to make him a somewhat marginal candidate in the long run
Brownback who? Like my son said ” a preacher in the white house strikes me as a violation of the seperation of church and state.”
Ron paul yet again. I’ve been being attacked quite openly on some blogs for saying this, but the fact is I’ve been telling his supporters for months that those that control elections in America (no, not the voters, but thats funny) will not let him get close. This was proven last night by the FOXNEWS conspiracy. Dr. Paul has had every chance to put forth a feasible and considered platform, and instead chooses to continue with his “sheer folly” approach. You reap what you sow, and Ron Paul last night received the derision that he has so long courted.
The debate wasn’t as broad as the democratic debates have been with well over half of the time spent on military related issues and immigration. None of these people stand for any domestic reforms that will help anyone so it’s probably best that they don’t speak about them.
Fred Thompson was the big loser for seeking the least common denominator vote on Jay Leno. If I had to pick a big winner I’d say Hillary Clinton. Not only do none of these people look like they could beat her, but Bill was on Larry King Live at the same time the debate was going on, and made it very clear that he would play a big role in the foreign policy and domestic agenda of a Clinton administration.
By what is apparently double the nearest competitor. At last look he had 33% of the vote to 16% for Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani, with John McCain at 15%. That would be considered a win by anybody I would think. Popularity in New Hampshire is not an easy thing to come by.
But wait. There is more. Every question Brit Hume asked was asked either derisively or facetiously when speaking to Ron, and every answer given was combative and circuitous. Ron really didn’t answer the questions he was asked, but rather rephrased them to fit the answers he wanted to give. He was shrill, petuleant, and argumentative. His viewpoint appeared to be self serving and cowardly, and during his debate within a debate with Mike Huckabee he came off as irrational and whiny.
This was not only an unpresidential showing, it exhibited almost perfectly why he is for ending the war on drugs. He appeared very in need of something to get him back in touch with reality.
BTW, the poll was a nationwide phone in poll in which you can call as often as you like, but you have to pay for each call.
Yeah, he said it. It was on FOXnews. I will paraphrase his remarks becase I was so astounded by his argument that I couldn’t write at the time. It always strikes me funny when people take the argument most used against what they believe, and then recite it to defend their view.
Ron got a lot of face time today, and in the overall I thought handled himself quite nicely. the only place I saw a significant breakdown in his arguments for his views was on gun control. He said, and again this is a paraphrase…the people who wrote the constitution I’m sure did not envision not being able to carry their shotguns across state lines.
No kidding? You think some guy in Georgia didn’t realize that he would end up facing different gun laws if he went into South Carolina? Fair enough. I’ll buy that
Do you think the people who wrote the constitution took into account some guy driving in an automobile from Florida to Maine in a day, with a trunkload of guns to sell?
Do you think these old musket carrying rapscallions considered the idea of a machine gun that fires several thousand rounds a minute, or an automatic handgun with a 15 round clip?
I’m sure they took into account driveby shoootings, since I’m sure drivebys was a problem at the time, and I’m also almost certain they took into account teeneagers carrying guns to school and wiping out their classmates…again, a huge problem in the 1700’s.
You made the gun control argument for us Ron. The founding fathers never realized what would happen in the future. This isn’t cause to make it easier to get a gun, but rather a reason to make it harder. I fully suport the peoples right to own weapons, and I fully support the practical reasoning behind making purchasing a gun a difficult process.
Just to give a little insight, I do not own a gun, because at least 5 times a day if I owned one I would use it as it was intended.
I think it’s probably wrong to keep your dead ex’s body next to your bed. The dead don’t deserve that type of disrespect. I am ok with the use of tzxidermy to keep your loved ones around after they pass. I think just a head mount would be in pooor taste, but a full body mount doesn’t seem unsound.
Raise your hand if this is news to you. If you have one hand up raise the other one and hit yourself in the head.
All right ladies, don’t get mad. Oh go ahead. You don’t need the money. this comes as a surprise to me. I always found angry female bosses about as good to have as angry mail bosses, just with breasts. I think i would pay them more.
Crazy History Geeks try to blow up the Queen Mary II. Ok, no they didn’t, but can you imagine how the guy who made this bust must of been rushing? Possible terror attack, (which apparently every story is now automatically tagged with), and it turns out to be 3 members of the Turtle Historical Club?
I’m glad really. I wish to see if a major metropolitan area’s voting bloc will complain about being constantly under surveillance. This should be interesting based on how concerned they are about someone listening to their phone calls
Ron Paul comes out swinging like bonds is the latest newsweek poll. I mean bonds on his current i can’t hit shit streak of course. Ron Paul’s whopping 2% of those polled hsould have the faithful clamoring for his ascension into heaven. Man the euphoria should be bouncing around headquarters like they’re on an XTC binge.
Bush’s poll numbers now on a historical par with Truman, Carter, and Nixon. Let’s take a moment to consider this. Truman dropped an atomic bomb, and ruled with an iron fist through the post war economic disaster, Nixon violated the law on several levels and had to resign, and Carter was the honest Brack Obama, although brighter, of the 70’s.
a cat story for my readers from icanhazcheeseburger…not what you had in mind was it? Kitty got his ass kicked. That should piss off the peta patrol.
I went here to find out what pop tarts had to do with Hiedi Klums bosom. You”ll see why I feel like a dumbass when you click on the link. If you don’t, then you’re an even bigger dumbass than I.
See this is where you see the difference between strategy and tactics. Remember this as the week Barack Obama lost the nomination. Unless of course he gets a note from his doctor saying he was on psychotropic drugs and had lost all touch with reality. What an asswit.
and thats good news friday. i didn’t even have to use the bridge, the dog mauling, or the kid cooking in its car seat stories. What a lovely thing is technology. We now really do know way more than we really wish to.
Hillary “da rack” Clinton rode her cleavage to a huge lead on the democrat side of the poll…See the Ron Paul link above. I only added this because I wanted to call hillary “da rack” which rhymes with barack, and is a hell of a start for one of those kill whitey rap ditties.
So the new hue and cry is the Republican candidates are scared to debate on YouTube. I for one do not blame them. I think from a strategic standpoint those candidates currently refusing to attend the debate do so with a level of acute awareness often missing in the politicians of today.
Before the debate has even started Mitt Romney is being accused of saying that he thinks it’s undifnified to be questioned by the general public. The fact that he said nothing close to this is irrelevant because YouTubes have a huge problem with reading comprehension, and think that cesspool the other night was a fine example of democracy at work. What he said was he thought (I paraphrase) the office of president should be held to a higher level than to have to be asked questions by a snowman. I concur. Ratings are important to CNN, and since it is their editors that chose the questions we have to assume that ratings came into play when choosing the snowman question. I’m quite sure one of the other 3000 questions could have addressed global warming just as well. Some level of decorum should be maintained, and lets face it, the global warming snowman was as much about ratings as the psychopath with the assault rifle.
Additionally, the benchmarks in Iraq debate will be in full roar in September, and this is almost certainly the reason those not electing to attend have chosen that course of action. Contrary to what this mullet has to say:
Added state Republican spokeswoman Erin VanSickle: “It’s an important debate in an important battleground state that just moved its primary to Jan. 29th. In other words, we have every confidence that they will attend. They can’t afford not to.” (same link as above).
While I’m sure Florida will be important, it always is, I don’t think being swamped with questions about their Iraq positions will be good for any of the candidates. McCain has chosen to attend, as has Ron Paul. McCain needs a metaphoric homerun to win, and Ron Paul is on the right side of the war issue. Hard to blame either of them. The rest are not desperate enough to go to Florida and be sandbagged by CNN.
It’s not about you tube, although the wretchedly insipid crowd hanging out in the political arena there are absolutely sure there voice is the only one that matters. What matters is that several little CNN gnomes will be picking and choosing the questions, and quite likely stuffing the clip box as they do so. It’s not hard to imagine some little editor having a buddy send in a sleeper clip that they can smear a Republican candidate with. How about in the interest of fairness we have a FOXNEWS/YouTube.com debate?
I’m not raising a conspiracy theory here. CNN has long been known for its softballing interviews with democratic leaders while hammering away at conservatives. It’s easy to se it happen when you think both liberals and conservatives are worng, but I may be the only person left that believes that. The debate for the democrats barely touched on Iraq because quite simply thats not news at a democratic debate. They all profess desire to be out of the war, and everyone knows they aren’t doing anything about it. The republicans on the other hand primarily support some form of presence in Iraq, and I would surmise that based on the timing of the debate, CNN has every intention of using the benckmarks as a club to wield at the candidates.
Smart move Romney, Giuliani, Thompson, et al. No point putting your head in a noose today in hopes of being reincarnated in time for the elections.