I’ll do these by the numbers. So many have no real idea what he stands for, and one of my commenters wondered if knowing would change anything. let me know if this changes your opinion of Ron Paul
1. debt and taxes – I think my issue here is that someone who wants free trade shouldn’t complain because other nations “buy a piece of the rock” so to speak. I have read where he supports a consumption tax, but from my own reading, I have never seen him support that without constitutional strings attached. He does want lower taxes…remember that for later.
2. American Independence and sovereignty- he is against U.S. troops being tried for war crimes by an International Criminal Court, he is against GATT NAFTA the WTO, and Cafta…so what free trade is he for?
in this one he also talks down the NAFTA superhighway which is planned along current I-69. He also is trying to get funding to extend I-69 through Houston. What the hey, if there is a NAFTA Superhighway he might as well be in on it.
this one is mystifying. I don’t understand his stance on free trade at all? Is he talking free international trade with no guidelines or restrictions? what about regulations determining the viability of the products being imported? He is thin on this one. He says this as a closing line:
“We must withdraw from any organizations and trade deals that infringe upon the freedom and independence of the United States of America”_Ron Paul (name added by author)
well, you have to give up something in any trade deal Ron. What is allowed. He is very vague on his webpage.
3. war and foreign policy. No war without congressional declaration. No foreign aid. no isolationism. Open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy that pretty well sums it up. What it doesn’t say is often times diplomacy hinges on foreign aid. In other words, sometimes governments buy friends in the interest of the greater good. I agree with the only declared wars line, but the rest of it is simply from lollipops, gumdrops, and rainbow land. do not isolate but do not intervene. Do not give aid or intervene, but use diplomacy. open trade in a nation that heavily regulates its industry with nations that don’t? can you say burgeoning trade deficits, bunkie? I’m sorry, other than declared wars, this whole block is irrational. They really need to keep him on his meds.
4. life and liberty _this is the abortion one, folks. He is against abortion. No question. He wants life to be considered to begin at conception. He has authored legislation that will stop the federal government from intervening in state decisions to defend life…limiting Roe v. Wade. He does not obfuscate like the pauliacs. He comes right out and says what he wants , with utter clarity. In a related issue there is also a lot of bold speak using clipped excerpts that show he supports stem cell research. This is false. He supports SOME stem cell research. He does not and has never supported in any of his speeches embryonic stem cell research, the type scientists and medical experts believe to be the most valuable. He is against federal funding for any of them. Here’s a link before you go telling me how dumb I am.
5. Border security and immigration reform – he has six bullet points…the most important thing, paying for it isn’t mentioned. They include (I’ll give a link to the full text at the bottom of this article) Physically secure our borders and coastlines (and I assume ports), enforce visa rules, no amnesty, no welfare for illegal aliens, end birthright citizenship, pass true immigration reform. ok Can we say huge Federal Government Bureaucracy? I’m talking massive expenditures just to secure the perimeter. then we need enough law enforcement types to deport 10 to 20 million people, We need screeners everywhere to ensure sick illegal immigrants don’t get treated at hospitals or receive government services, we need to change the constitution for our constitutional conservative, (I believe thats a 2/3rds vote which is never going to happen on this issue), and then we need to establish what I can only assume is a draconian immigration policy, because he complains about there being to many. This would make the iraq war funding look like someone broke into a piggy bank.
6. privacy and personal liberty – self explanatory. He wants utmost privacy, and no federal ID card. He seems to want to abolish SSN as well, or at least curtail there usage. My problem here is quite simply since the constitution does not gaurantee privacy, why is this one of his issues?
7. Property rights and eminent domain – This is one that everybody likes i’m sure, but think of what our highway system would be like if when interstates were being built in the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s eminent domain were not part of law? Here is the fifth amendment…read the last line carefully
Main Index > Cases and Codes > U.S. Constitution > Fifth Amendment
U.S. Constitution: Fifth Amendment
Fifth Amendment – Rights of Persons
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation
I’m sorry…thats twice on his own campaign blog where the strongest voice for freedom and the only true constitutional government supporter bucks the constitution. I didn’t write any of this stuff. He did, or his staff did with his consent. I’m not for the NAFTA superhighway, but understand that eminent domain and regulations to protect wetlands etc are crucial to the viability of our nation and our planet.
Ok, that’s all of it…now here is the link in case you think I’m lying.
now you know what Ron Paul is about on the issues he found to be important enough to post on his campaign webpage…go read it, and let me know how you feel about him. I’ll even delete your comment without posting it if you ask. My curiousity is killing me.
Sometimes fair isn’t fairJuly 19, 2007
Fair. My pops said fair is a place you go to ride a ferris wheel. My pops can oversimplifiy anything, which certainly helped limit confusion as to where he stood.
I’ve been embroiled in a discussion over the last couple of days about how numbers are the objective way to run a country. Everything should be dictated to us based on math, I think he’s an economist, and has spent to much time with his slide rule. I’d tell you where it is so you could go read it, but to be honest I’ve sorta just been trying to drive him insane, and if it works I’ll clue y’all in.
He keeps saying things like “what could be fairer than that?” Well, sorry homie, but fair don’t get it done. Fair is a myth. There is nothing in life that is fair. One of my favorite “fairness doctrines” of his is his tax idea. No matter how much you make, you should pay the same 19% of your income. This is fair. Yes, to people making a reasonable amount of money, this is fair. I think Ron Paul is a flat taxer as well. Speaking of whom…if you go to vote smart .org you can read everything this sucker has said on the floor of the house since before 9/11. Aw hell, here’s the link. It also has other public interviews and speeches, so you pauliacs can read something other than the schleppy speeches Lew Rockwell is spoon feeding you.
anyway. Why flat tax isn’t fair. Let’s start with an obvious model. Bill Gates and say someone living on the minimum wage. 2080 times call it 7 bucks an hour = 14,560…less call it 20% =round it to $11,700.00. Thats to live on…for a year.
Now I know you’re saying well, Bill Gates earned his money, and shouldn’t have to pay more. But that’s not fair is it? Bill Gates has a lot more access to services than the person who is taking home 11K, now doesn’t he…therefore he should pay more. A lot more. He also has a lot more access to all the places and things America has to offer. The american dream just simply is not there for everybody. You can in your elitist way say that it’s their own fault, but if you didn’t grow up in Cabrini Green you really don’t know whether one of its inhabitants is blameless or not.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t like what our government did by creating a dependancy on government handouts, but government did do it. They have also run a lot of jobs out of America leaving even more Americans in the ever lengthening shadow of poverty. It’s easy to sit in a position of advantage and look at those not in that position with a cynical eye. That’s ok. Look down on whoever you want. but pay your FAIR share.
As far as the rich fleeing the country if you tax them fairly? Let them…freeze their assets as they run. The elite have fleeced America with the aid of their government cronies. I see no reason not to make them pay it back. (I just want to see if that pisses off a guy I know) .
Authors note: these are not necessarily my views. Fair just makes me a little irate, since in politics nobody seems to know what fair really is. I do not live in Cabrini Green, do not take government handouts, and get paid a reasonably fair wage. I should probably just be selfish, but can’t look at the weakest members of our society, and contemplate how to enrich myself off them. It’s kind of sick that anyone can. Interestingly enough, I still think Darwin had some good theories.
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